she tried everything she could to, you know, get into the same religion. she tried to be everything she could possibly be to win travis over completely and she couldn't do it. so finally, it was, fican't have you, nobody can. >> geraldo: both of have you no doubted in your mind but that this woman committed this brutal crime. >> no question. all of us knew it. the minute we found out that travis was dead and he had been murdered. we were like, it's joadzy. it has to be jodi. she's crazy. all of us say saw -- a lot of us saw it right from the beginning. >> geraldo: you think it will be capitol murder. would you prefer her to be put to death? >> i would, yes. for as heinous of a crime. travis was an amazing person. he was so down to earth, so funny, so loving, not any of the things she is saying. he didn't deserve to die. >> geraldo: i have to leave it there. that's it for us. thank you very much for watching. have a g ♪ using cloud computing and mobile technology, verizon innovators have developed a projective display for firefighters. allowing them to se